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  • in reply to: We need 500 voices for Shorelines #54841
    Andrew StuckAndrew Stuck

    At our second “How to make a sound walk” workshop we asked participants to come up with 1, 2 or 3 syllable rhyming words that evoked Shorelines or rhymed with Chalke and Ebble, the two rivers in the Cranborne Chase Landscape Partnership Area:

    kelp, shell, ship, masts, shingle, pebble
    obvious, but walk
    ripple… wobble
    ebb, flow
    thrift – drift
    Turns turning seaweed
    bubbly, lovely,
    wave, grave, safe
    chalk – dark, walk, edge ; pebble – stubble, rubble, reddle, broken, level
    gulls, ripples, foam,
    rushing, sparkling
    bramble ramble barbs shards over clover river slither
    the heron stalks the chalk through reeds and steep banks
    tumble, bumble
    waders, flotsam, jetsam
    sand, land
    tumble, rumble
    sheep, steep
    splash, crash
    puffins, spray, tide, undertow,
    breathe, leave, sigh, sky
    can shoreline have sound or just words
    drone, phone
    plunge, sponge
    drip drop slip plop
    shimmer, glimmer
    Ripple, stipple
    shimmer glimmer
    lapping, sand, swim, bubbles
    fish, wish, dish, hiss
    swash, backwash
    eddy ready threaded steady heady

    in reply to: We need 500 voices for Shorelines #53079
    Andrew StuckAndrew Stuck

    At a recent “How to make a sound walk” workshop we asked participants to come up with 2 or 3 syllable rhyming words that evoked Shorelines – so if you are combining unstuck while trying to write a submissions to Shorelines, here are those words as a handy prompt:

    (In Dutch) borrelend water, korrelige bodem, ribbelige wolken weerspiegeld in de golven
    mudlark, Cutty Sark, Tourist shark
    endless space, promise of a journey
    shimmering shingle
    marooned festooned
    A hesitant threshold
    Tide in tide out
    a permeable border rising and falling with the moon
    Side-by-side. A meeting. The water greeting the land.
    Dipper, skipper, clipper
    wake waves on the Thames shore by the Tate
    Go Flow Low
    an invitation, an edge, shallows
    where edges flow among me
    lost whale
    See me, sea me
    the splash of oars ripple out
    Edge, reeds, marsh, eddy
    lapping waves
    Swirling shimmering
    Puddle, pebble, paddle, babble
    Gates to the old gardens flowing down
    Pier jetty, tidal Thames to the open sea , bridges
    ship’s horn
    Wave lets me in
    An island on an island off an island
    Tidal change, laps the shore
    and deepness submerges the thought of breathing
    jutting jetty
    washing up in disappearing lines
    Swans fly by
    sluggish flow
    beached jellyfish
    squawking seagulls
    Unlikely creation of land
    swimming through reeds
    lines of light

    in reply to: We need 500 voices for Shorelines #53078
    Andrew StuckAndrew Stuck

    One third of the way through September and we have had about 30 written submissions to Shorelines, but only a handful of recitals – what is holding our volunteer voices back?

    Andrew StuckAndrew Stuck

    Q&A from the Sounds from the Shoreline workshop chat

    Many of these questions were answered by workshops participants – so a big THANK YOU to everyone for helping each other out.

    Q: after you locate a sound in a map with echo, how do people bump into the sound? do they have to know before hand that the sound is there?
    A: Listeners have to download the Echoes app and seek out the soundwalk – then depending on whether the creator has hidden the geo-located polygons (this is an option you have as a creator) determines whether you can see where the geo-located sounds are or whether you have to search for / stumble upon them.

    Q: the name of the recording programme on an iPhone?
    A: Voice Memo – I personally open Siri and ask it to open Voice Memo – works every time. To find it amongst the bundled apps is lass easy – look out for a big Red dot!
    Voice Recorder- On Android it should be under Tools, most devices come with a built-in one. just swipe down and a search box should appear – type “voice recorder” in there.

    Q: Some earphones have microphones in them. It it better to use that or go for the phone mic?
    A: To be honest I haven’t tried it with blue toothed ear buds, but others tell me that the quality of the mic in the phone is always better than that on the earphone. Marcin says: The earphone mics are good for recording your own voice. If you’re about to record environment or other people speaking, I’d recommend using the phone mic.

    You can get binaural mics – these site either side of your head and look very similar to headphones – they allow you to record sounds as similar to how we hear through our ear. Playback is better for those wearing headphones, listening to it without headphones tends to make it sound dull and it can be distorted. Binuaral is a great additional element to try.

    Q: can I ask why you chose Echoes app (
    A: The app is free to use – whoopee! – is virtually bomb-proof – has eager support if anything should go awry

    Q: what if apps become redundant?
    A: On the Walk Listen Create platform, we are trying to, at the very least list older soundwalks, and are investigating ways in which to revive some. We are working with the British Library Digital curator, Stella Wisdom, so are fairly well-informed of new developments to counter redundancy

    Q: Why (in the Audacity editor) are there two lines?
    A: Left and right channel (think ears) – not necessarily stereo – your smartphone records in mono, so the editor merely duplicates the track, but many sound recorders record in stereo. You can fool the listener into imagining they are listening in stereo by panning the sound between each ear / channel – fade in one channel as you fade out another.

    Q: So you can go quieter and louder depending on the sounds on your walk – eg a busy road, louder.
    A: Indeed – within the editor you can select passages of wave forms and make them softer or louder. This is helpful if on the ground there is extensors ambient noise, but there are other times when you might want to make passages softer – if you want characters in a fiction or drama to be whispering for example.

    Q: Does Echoes only support m4a?
    A: it also supports mp3 – it could support other formats too. m4a is standard with Mac / iPhone and Zoom and is compressed more than mp3 hence usually slightly smaller and consequently faster to up / download.

    Q: Is there a simple way to edit out unwanted ambient sounds when making a recording?
    A: – yes and no – you can take out ambient sound using some Effects on Audacity. But it is pretty limited. Pros use Logic Pro Tools to create broadcast quality – but they are not cheap and take a bit of time to master

    Q: What is the geo location for 30 Days of Walking?
    A: Walks submitted to 30 Days of Walking aren’t geo-located

    Q: 30 Days of Walking – is it just in London?
    A: No anywhere in the world

    Q: Do people need the Echoes app to listen to the soundwalk?
    A: You can listen to Echoes sound walks on the web – and of course, there are many sound walks that aren’t made using Echoes. has more than 250 sound walks – some are on Echoes, many are not geo-located.

    Q: What if there’s already a sound in the area you’ve created?
    A: do you mean that other people have left a digital layer thre? It is fine – as your layer is unique to you. It only becomes a problem if someone hacks you layers – I have seen that happen only once and that was by the Police

    Q: how do people listen to the sound? Do they have a choice? do they have to be connected to a specific program?
    A: if you record a sound walk as an mp3 and add it to SoundCloud then people can listen to it through their web browser

    Q: Is this usually used in the context of an exhibition, project or event? Or are there independent users that would just go around exploring?
    A: we want everyone to enjoy creating sound walks
    Q: yes. I guess I am asking if there is a natural, unprompted user group
    A: Echoes has a creator community as do other apps e.g. VoiceMap – we too have a community amongst the registered users of Walk Listen Create – we hope forums like this will be helpful for sound walk creatives

    Q: I have a question: how reliable have you found The Echoes? How precise?
    A: Sometimes it is infuriatingly precise! It is pretty good – but like everything else it is reliant on the infrastructure in the area in which you are making your geo-located soundwalk – if a satellite goes down….

    Andrew StuckAndrew Stuck

    Hi Xelis

    There area several platforms that offer geo-location – we use Echoes simply as it is free, and we’ve found it pretty much bomb-proof.
    However, unless the composer / producer of the sound walk has geo-located their piece on a platform that can be reached via the Internet, then you would have to download the app on which they created it.

    Echoes prefers m4a – as they are more compressed and take less time to up / download – they are standard with iPhone / Mac (as well as with Zoom for example).

    Walk Listen Create has a community of about 500 sound walk creators but there will be. many others – some complete novices, others skilful .

    Glad you were able to join the workshop

    Just go out and try recording something on your next walk

    I did one the other day on the Thames foreshore – we had this set up so if we had had time you could have critiqued it (as it is far from perfect).

    Have fun

    best, Andrew

    in reply to: We need 500 voices for Shorelines #49116
    Andrew StuckAndrew Stuck

    Hi Phoebe

    That novel is new to me, so I must search it out.

    Sadly, yes as you have guessed it is in copyright, so therefore we can’t use it within the “Shorelines” project – we are going to have to only accept new written work or something that is unpublished.

    We have taken some advice from the British library, and they say that in citizen-sourced projects like this one, some people pass off copyrighted work as their own! And other older works are difficult to ascertain the copyright position.

    So we will be writing terms and conditions not only about not submitting copyrighted work, but we also have to consider performances and reading aloud – performance rights will have to be waived and we need to be sure that the audio rights are not copyrighted.

    We will be a using a commons license – people who submit written or spoken work will have to be prepared to allow their work to be shared under such a license.

    However, back to your suggestion of an extract from this title – what may be a smart move will be if we write a blog about popular works on the theme of Shorelines, within which we can mention titles, and use a short quote, under fair usage. Let’s see what other recommendations people suggest.

    Thanks for raising this.

    Best, Andrew

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